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Old 02-25-2007, 02:23 AM   #1
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hybrid axles

Has anyone tried the tracker/samurai hybrid axles from petroworks. im lookin to upgrade and was weighing all options before i make a choice. thanks
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:05 AM   #2
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you might want to have a look at the one from Sky as well. they retube with 3/16 DOM tubing so the chances of bending or tearing the mounts off would be almost nil.
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Old 02-25-2007, 07:45 PM   #3
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Hybrid axles have a front differential housing with rear axle tubes... right? This is in order to be able to use Tracker 3rd members in both axles?
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Old 02-25-2007, 08:34 PM   #4
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I bought my hybrid housing (sky's) off ebay with a kick diff 5:12 gears. . I went this route because off $$$ and I bent my stock housing plus I already had a front 3rd from pic a part. The hybrid housing uses the stock kick diff and center section. Tubes and bearing flanges are welded on sio you can reuse sami axles brakes ect. Way cheaper than trying to regear yotas or 44's.
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no they are rear track/kick difs with sammy axleshafts.
track/kick use centered rear vs the sammy offset.
this way you only need one doner vehicle for gears as you use both front and rear sets. the rear is also stronger as it uses a larger ring gear, carrier and bearings I belive.
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:11 AM   #6
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great to get your gearing back however .. the cost is not much less as a toy swap. ( talking from experiance I had a hybrid)
my advise put the money in the t-case play with the stock axles till you bust em then upgrade to toy
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great to get your gearing back however .. the cost is not much less as a toy swap. ( talking from experiance I had a hybrid)
my advise put the money in the t-case play with the stock axles till you bust em then upgrade to toy
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great to get your gearing back however .. the cost is not much less as a toy swap. ( talking from experiance I had a hybrid)
my advise put the money in the t-case play with the stock axles till you bust em then upgrade to toy

it took me almost 5 years to break an axel(rear)with 33s running a hybred
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it took me almost 5 years to break an axel(rear)with 33s running a hybred
you weren't wheeling hard enough
I had wheeled mine for 3 years with 33's but there was always a fear it was gonna break .. broke both shafts in one day in a TT hybrid
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I have the trail tough version it uses a tracker center section dom tube tracker wheel berings and custom shafts . This is a very nice set up but i destroyed it. On its 2nd time out the splines on the long shaft stripped off and destroyed the ARB. This wasnt because the parts were weak but the housing bent. The tracker center section is made of thin sheet metal and the tubes are 3/16 dom so the tubes are verry strong and something has to be the weak point .
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I have the trail tough version it uses a tracker center section dom tube tracker wheel berings and custom shafts . This is a very nice set up but i destroyed it. On its 2nd time out the splines on the long shaft stripped off and destroyed the ARB. This wasnt because the parts were weak but the housing bent. The tracker center section is made of thin sheet metal and the tubes are 3/16 dom so the tubes are verry strong and something has to be the weak point .


mine is also from TT.but it uses sami axels and bearings.
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Old 04-21-2007, 04:51 AM   #13
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I cant say enough about how much better off you are with upgraded shafts and bigger berings.
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is there a hybrid front axle?

this might be a question but i dont know

when you use a hybrid rear axle where can you find gears for the front diff to match the rear R&P 5.12 or 4.62 gears?


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Spidertrax and Trail Tough both made hybrid front axles. They use the rear track/kick third members. The normal front axles run the matching front gears from the track/kicks...
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Spidertrax and Trail Tough both made hybrid front axles. They use the rear track/kick third members. The normal front axles run the matching front gears from the track/kicks...
i realize u said made

this means they dont make anymore
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i realize u said made

this means they dont make anymore
Actually, I think Spidertrax still makes them. I saw some empty Sidewinders on the racks when I was up there. Give them a call.
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Actually, I think Spidertrax still makes them. I saw some empty Sidewinders on the racks when I was up there. Give them a call.
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i didnt know the sidewinders were hybrid axles to fit samurai axle and sidekick 3rd members
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i didnt know the sidewinders were hybrid axles to fit samurai axle and sidekick 3rd members
This is about a rear axle install, but they also make Sidewinders for up front...
http://www.izook.com/tech/samurai/dr...sidewinder.htm

Sidewinder in front:
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This is about a rear axle install, but they also make Sidewinders for up front...
http://www.izook.com/tech/samurai/dr...sidewinder.htm

Sidewinder in front:

ok thanks alot
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another question

i read the link and they said something about the sidekick axles

doesnt the sidewinder suppose to use samurai axles and a sidekick 3rd?
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another question

i read the link and they said something about the sidekick axles

doesnt the sidewinder suppose to use samurai axles and a sidekick 3rd?
The Sidewinder uses the track/kick third member and it is built to the width of the samurai, putting the differential in the right position behind the transfer case. You can use the stock samurai rear axles if you tell them that is what it is for, otherwise they set it up so you can use their custom chromo axles and use front disks and hubs. This makes it a full floater, and is very trick.
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The Sidewinder uses the track/kick third member and it is built to the width of the samurai, putting the differential in the right position behind the transfer case. You can use the stock samurai rear axles if you tell them that is what it is for, otherwise they set it up so you can use their custom chromo axles and use front disks and hubs. This makes it a full floater, and is very trick.

so the standard is with the same offset at the samurai and the sidekick 3rd member

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so the standard is with the same offset at the samurai and the sidekick 3rd member
Exactly...
I installed one that was built 3" longer than stock. They also have an option of 6" longer than stock. This makes up for the use of spacers or offset wheels.
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Exactly...
I installed one that was built 3" longer than stock. They also have an option of 6" longer than stock. This makes up for the use of spacers or offset wheels.
so if the axle is longer wouldnt that mean you will need a longer axle shaft?
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