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Old 09-22-2011, 11:11 AM   #1
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Toyota springs vs YJ springs

I got a free set of Toyota springs, and have a set of Toyota axles. So I would like to know the pros and cons of the Toyota springs vs the YJ springs. They seem to be the same length, and if I have to I'd be will to remove a leaf to get some more flex. Just seems there has to be a reason why everyone is on the YJ wagon. Thanks
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:32 PM   #2
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The front yotas would work perfect. 45"x centered pin.

They are 2.36" wide, and the YJ plates make it 2 1/2" but still might bolt right in?

Rear yotas will extend your wb, about 5" per front/rear.
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This is strictly a wheeler, so the extra wheel base would be a added bonus. Thanks for the info
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:42 PM   #4
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They are also just a tad longer, but would be the way to go. Winkler01 on here did this, he sits around 93" wb IIRC.
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Well I get them for free so I think I will just rock them. Plan on doing a front and rear four with fox air shocks this winter, this is just to get me on the trail for the rest of the season.
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Missed this one to start.

I started with a set of toy front lift springs under mine. They were STIFF! No flex, & rode rougher than anything I've ever had. Note that these were lift springs.

Just my experience.
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Old 10-22-2011, 01:24 AM   #7
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i first start off with yj all 4 corners . i switched to toy rear springs they re soft and flexy .. they flex better than the yj


toy not at full flex






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Mine was like this with YJ SPOA
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Missed this one to start.

I started with a set of toy front lift springs under mine. They were STIFF! No flex, & rode rougher than anything I've ever had. Note that these were lift springs.

Just my experience.
Just to clarify, the FRONT Toyota springs were the ones not flexing for me. The rears did awesome, & if I ever do more front stretch, I'll probably use them in the front.
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:03 AM   #10
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I'm running rear toy springs at all 4 corners on my samurai and the wifes tracker....Nice ride and flex great.
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So, I have YJ's now with the SKY YJ kit.

I need new springs anyway because the YJ's I have now are almost frowning with just the light weight of the samurai. If I get yota springs which ones am I looking for? And someone mentioned that the rear springs will extend the wheelbase 5" per end... These may be a great option for the rear of my zuk, because my front is all done and the steering is perfect, my pitman arm just clears my drag link. So I don't wanna screw with the front axle/springs.
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Toyota springs

What year yota rear springs are you running.


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i first start off with yj all 4 corners . I switched to toy rear springs they re soft and flexy .. They flex better than the yj


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Toy rears all around:

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78-88 are the popular ones. 48" total length, 20.5/27.5 offset pin.

78-83 have about 1.5-2" more free arch than the later years, For most, that just means more lift, but if you run a higher free arched spring, that is softer, you get good spring action in the rougher stuff at speed. The spring is able to rebound faster, without compromising compression (As a stiffer spring would).

I'm running 86+ (IFS truck) springs in the front of mine, with a few added leaves for a 5 leaf pack, & a stripped down '82, 3 leaf pack in the rear.
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sorry to bring this thread back up from the dead, but what do you guys think about running trailgear/allpro toyota front 4" lift springs SUA?

they're 47" with 22" and 25" lengths from the center pin. compare to yj's and toy rears from this chart
http://www.4x4spot.com/misc__spring_information.htm
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Missed this one to start.

I started with a set of toy front lift springs under mine. They were STIFF! No flex, & rode rougher than anything I've ever had. Note that these were lift springs.

Just my experience.
I had 3" Procomps & the fronts were way too stiff. The TG's seem to use thinner leaves, but they may still be stiff.
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trail gear will be softer than the procomp and the tg 4 is the best one they make
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Ya procrap springs are always super stiff!

Im thinking I will probably pull the bottom leaf and maybe one more if they're too stiff. Now I just need to decide whether I want to go 4" or 5".

What makes the 4" spring better than the 3 or 5"? I'm surprised no one has ever tried this setup before.
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Kinda an older thread but it beats making a new one.

Ihabe yjs front and rear with the sky kit. The front end is stating the way it is because my pitman arm clears my tie rod by like 3/8". I'd like to extend my wheelbase out in the back. Yj springs are 42.5" eye -eye. What are toys and what are xj's? Everyone seems to say swap this, swap that, but they can be kinda vague. Do I need to move perches? What all needs to be done besides lengthening the driveshaft and relocating the fuel tank
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