Flashers work -blinkers don't

ford381stroker · 06-11-2011, 02:44 PM

I don't know what is causing this. I have been chasing wires for over a week and still no success to diagnosing the problem.

I have a 92 Samurai, the fuse block has power. It will blow a fuse immediately when I put one in. The flasher works and all of the light bulbs are new and work perfectly. I have not replaced the light fixtures themselves though. Could that be the problem? What am I missing? This Samurai is rust free and I want to put it on the street as a DD but I can't if I don't get this fixed asap.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

**phloop** · 06-11-2011, 03:01 PM

If you have checked all the wires and grounds, next thing I would check is the multi function switch to see if it has an issue.

ford381stroker · 06-11-2011, 03:34 PM

Did that also. Should have mentioned that. I have a spare so I plugged both harnesses up and still nothing. The flasher works still but no blinkers. The multifunction switch doesn't have to be mounted on the steering column to function properly does it? I didn't bother removing the one on the column and just plugged this one into the harness. I didn't see any place where it would ground to the column.

**phloop** · 06-11-2011, 03:39 PM

No need for the switch to be mounted to the collumn. I tested a couple just by plugging them in as you did.

ford381stroker · 06-11-2011, 03:42 PM

I guess I could try to disconnect the switch (both harnesses) and see if the fuse still pops. If it does that would mean it is in the wiring or plugs right?

ford381stroker · 06-11-2011, 03:56 PM

Just tried it and still blew the fuse. Hmmmm.

ack · 06-11-2011, 07:47 PM

Disregard this post. I didn't read the first one carefully enough....

skyhiranger · 06-11-2011, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ford381stroker

Just tried it and still blew the fuse. Hmmmm.

Unplug all the lights, put in a new fuse, plug them in 1 by 1 and see which one blows the fuse, when you plug it in. At least you could isolate the problem that way.

mybadford · 06-12-2011, 04:59 PM

I kind of had a similar problem but my right side turn signal worked and so did the hazard flashers but not the left side. All it did was make the flasher buzz. as messed up as it sounds I replaced the flasher and it resolved the problem for now anyway.

I'm not to certian that I don't have a ground problem as well. Once I get a ZOR front bumper with LED lights to match the rear I will reground all the lights

ford381stroker · 06-20-2011, 10:27 PM

I currently have all of the marker lights removed. It blows a fuse with no lights in? I am lost as to what to do now. Should I start replacing all of the light housings and ground wires to each of them?

**240hpsammy** · 06-20-2011, 10:28 PM

unplug the lights housings one by one

**240hpsammy** · 06-20-2011, 10:29 PM

you might have a open wire to ground on one bulb housing like i had .

skyhiranger · 06-20-2011, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ford381stroker

I currently have all of the marker lights removed. It blows a fuse with no lights in? I am lost as to what to do now. Should I start replacing all of the light housings and ground wires to each of them?

When I said "unplug the lights", I meant disconnect the wiring connectors, not remove the bulbs. Unplug them all, put a good fuse in, plug each one back in one by one and check the fuse after each one. That will isolate which one is causing the problem. I'd say you have a hot wire grounded/shorted somewhere.

firstsami · 06-21-2011, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyhiranger

When I said "unplug the lights", I meant disconnect the wiring connectors, not remove the bulbs. Unplug them all, put a good fuse in, plug each one back in one by one and check the fuse after each one. That will isolate which one is causing the problem. I'd say you have a hot wire grounded/shorted somewhere.

Thats what it sounds like. there is a short to ground some where. by un pluging the wire to the sockets one by one this will tell you which one or eliminate that area. If that dont work trace wires back mayby there cut and grounding

skyman · 06-21-2011, 10:45 AM

Mine were run under the shock relocation bar (since removed). If your wires travel above a shock relocation bar check them, mine were pinched there and randomly shorting out.

ford381stroker · 06-22-2011, 10:52 PM

I will work on the sockets tomorrow evening. The weird part is they all work and flash as they should with the hazards on?

06-11-2011, 02:44 PM	#1
ford381stroker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,036 Rep Power: 964	Flashers work -blinkers don't I don't know what is causing this. I have been chasing wires for over a week and still no success to diagnosing the problem. I have a 92 Samurai, the fuse block has power. It will blow a fuse immediately when I put one in. The flasher works and all of the light bulbs are new and work perfectly. I have not replaced the light fixtures themselves though. Could that be the problem? What am I missing? This Samurai is rust free and I want to put it on the street as a DD but I can't if I don't get this fixed asap. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks __________________ Need some parts? Hit me up on Facebook at Phillip the Samurai Guy. I have a ton of pics showing parts I have for sale (not a business just a hobby).

06-11-2011, 03:01 PM	#2
phloop Bacon is the answer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Odell, OR. Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0	If you have checked all the wires and grounds, next thing I would check is the multi function switch to see if it has an issue. __________________ ~Union Rules~ Union hall 3B Living life a half bubble off. pie 0-1 I'm singing dammit!

06-11-2011, 03:34 PM	#3
ford381stroker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,036 Rep Power: 964	Did that also. Should have mentioned that. I have a spare so I plugged both harnesses up and still nothing. The flasher works still but no blinkers. The multifunction switch doesn't have to be mounted on the steering column to function properly does it? I didn't bother removing the one on the column and just plugged this one into the harness. I didn't see any place where it would ground to the column. __________________ Need some parts? Hit me up on Facebook at Phillip the Samurai Guy. I have a ton of pics showing parts I have for sale (not a business just a hobby).

06-11-2011, 03:39 PM	#4
phloop Bacon is the answer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Odell, OR. Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0	No need for the switch to be mounted to the collumn. I tested a couple just by plugging them in as you did. __________________ ~Union Rules~ Union hall 3B Living life a half bubble off. pie 0-1 I'm singing dammit!

06-11-2011, 03:42 PM	#5
ford381stroker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,036 Rep Power: 964	I guess I could try to disconnect the switch (both harnesses) and see if the fuse still pops. If it does that would mean it is in the wiring or plugs right? __________________ Need some parts? Hit me up on Facebook at Phillip the Samurai Guy. I have a ton of pics showing parts I have for sale (not a business just a hobby).

06-11-2011, 03:56 PM	#6
ford381stroker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,036 Rep Power: 964	Just tried it and still blew the fuse. Hmmmm. __________________ Need some parts? Hit me up on Facebook at Phillip the Samurai Guy. I have a ton of pics showing parts I have for sale (not a business just a hobby).

06-11-2011, 07:47 PM	#7
ack Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Independence, MO Posts: 2,018 Rep Power: 31282	Disregard this post. I didn't read the first one carefully enough.... __________________ - Ack '88 Samurai Offroader '88.5 Samurai Tintop '11 Ford Transit Connect XLT Wagon http://www.acksfaq.com Last edited by ack; 06-12-2011 at 06:45 PM. Reason: brain fart

06-12-2011, 04:59 PM	#9
mybadford Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 268 Rep Power: 9298	I kind of had a similar problem but my right side turn signal worked and so did the hazard flashers but not the left side. All it did was make the flasher buzz. as messed up as it sounds I replaced the flasher and it resolved the problem for now anyway. I'm not to certian that I don't have a ground problem as well. Once I get a ZOR front bumper with LED lights to match the rear I will reground all the lights __________________ 86 jx, 1.3, spoa, YJ springs, missing links up front, 5.12 r&p, hybrid rear housing, Double Tough front shafts, Warn lockouts, rear disc, transfer case parking brake,5.5" longer shock hoops, full OTS steering, ZOR rear bumper, 1450psi p/s pump, 2"x6" hydro assist ram, tracker steering box, 6.5 tc, twin stick, LROR EOS tc cradle, 16/35-15 Boggers, 15x14 Weld wheels

06-20-2011, 10:27 PM	#10
ford381stroker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,036 Rep Power: 964	I currently have all of the marker lights removed. It blows a fuse with no lights in? I am lost as to what to do now. Should I start replacing all of the light housings and ground wires to each of them? __________________ Need some parts? Hit me up on Facebook at Phillip the Samurai Guy. I have a ton of pics showing parts I have for sale (not a business just a hobby).

06-20-2011, 10:28 PM	#11
240hpsammy beer is the answer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: terrebonne quebec, up north Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0	unplug the lights housings one by one __________________ honda 2.2 liter s2000 vtec engine swap moded 275hp,9500 redline,6 speed tranny...still under construction MY BUILD THREAD http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=37664

06-20-2011, 10:29 PM	#12
240hpsammy beer is the answer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: terrebonne quebec, up north Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0	you might have a open wire to ground on one bulb housing like i had . __________________ honda 2.2 liter s2000 vtec engine swap moded 275hp,9500 redline,6 speed tranny...still under construction MY BUILD THREAD http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=37664

06-21-2011, 10:45 AM	#15
skyman Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: yakima, wa Posts: 3,194 Rep Power: 15877	Mine were run under the shock relocation bar (since removed). If your wires travel above a shock relocation bar check them, mine were pinched there and randomly shorting out.

06-22-2011, 10:52 PM	#16
ford381stroker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,036 Rep Power: 964	I will work on the sockets tomorrow evening. The weird part is they all work and flash as they should with the hazards on? __________________ Need some parts? Hit me up on Facebook at Phillip the Samurai Guy. I have a ton of pics showing parts I have for sale (not a business just a hobby).

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