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Old 08-18-2009, 07:53 PM   #1
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Rear steer w/yota???

I'm about to set up a front yota axle to be a rear steer axle. The plan is 30 splines,flanges and upgraded knuckle bolts. I know somebody has tried this before,so any tips, tricks, do's or don'ts?
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Check this centered, rear steer Toyota axle out, I think Ruefab would probably be able to answer all of your questions on a rear steer Toyota axle: http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthrea...ghlight=ruefab (sorry if I'm not supposed to hyperlink).

I really wish a vendor would sell affordable knuckle balls for the Toyota axles. It would make fabbing up stuff like a rear steer Toy axle much easier and you wouldn't have to salvage some knuckle balls from a front axle.
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Old 08-18-2009, 10:14 PM   #3
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Check this centered, rear steer Toyota axle out, I think Ruefab would probably be able to answer all of your questions on a rear steer Toyota axle: http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthrea...ghlight=ruefab (sorry if I'm not supposed to hyperlink).

I really wish a vendor would sell affordable knuckle balls for the Toyota axles. It would make fabbing up stuff like a rear steer Toy axle much easier and you wouldn't have to salvage some knuckle balls from a front axle.
lmk when you find this out too. I would love to buy some knuckles to build a wider, center chunk'd front for my big zuk out of a rear axle. an electriic hydro pump would work well on the rear too. a buddy of mine has an uncle with a huggge swamp buggy and he runs rocks and the elec hydro pump and it works awsome!
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Old 08-19-2009, 05:29 AM   #4
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Check this centered, rear steer Toyota axle out, I think Ruefab would probably be able to answer all of your questions on a rear steer Toyota axle: http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthrea...ghlight=ruefab (sorry if I'm not supposed to hyperlink).

I really wish a vendor would sell affordable knuckle balls for the Toyota axles. It would make fabbing up stuff like a rear steer Toy axle much easier and you wouldn't have to salvage some knuckle balls from a front axle.
Checked out the link, and as much as i hate to say it...pirate does have a ton of good info. I added that thread to my favs so i can easily watch his updates. Now I guess my next question is where can I get 2 long side inners cut down? I was just going to run a normal front in the rear untill I was sure everything would hold, because I didn't want to spend to money to get the shafts cut and have them break.
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nice, I'd like to see how you do I've always been interested in rear steer and cutting/turning brakes. I'd like to do something like that in the future but so hard to find front yota axles. I don't know why rear steer or cutting brakes aren't more popular.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:52 PM   #6
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I was building custom steering stops this weekend on my toy front housing.I measured the angle in wich the birf moves and i got just under 38* out of it so I set my bumps at 36*on rear steer I think I would limit them down to around 30*in a attempt to save the stress on the birfs.

imo pretty marginal, in a zuk I say hell yeah it should hold up.Anything over 3500 lbs I would be real sceptical.We transfer alot of weight to the back, lots of stress on the rear end.
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They just did a rear steer on a toyota front axle on extreme 4x4 show. You can go to powerblocktv.com and I think you can download that show. It was very interesting. They cut and turned the knuckles/balls a little to maintain proper caster or camber. If I remember correctly they made it a high pinion, by rotating the third, and then cutting the dome loose on the back of the axle, and rotating it to match the ring gear side. It all looked real easy.
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I found a place to cut down my inners, but looks like this will be on hold untill I get a trailer...
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Ruff Stuff Off Road has them in development and will release their HD knuckle balls in a few weeks. Price is going to be around $150 each I believe. When I said HD, these are supposed to be a HUGE improvement over the stock balls. Check out their site.


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Check this centered, rear steer Toyota axle out, I think Ruefab would probably be able to answer all of your questions on a rear steer Toyota axle: http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthrea...ghlight=ruefab (sorry if I'm not supposed to hyperlink).

I really wish a vendor would sell affordable knuckle balls for the Toyota axles. It would make fabbing up stuff like a rear steer Toy axle much easier and you wouldn't have to salvage some knuckle balls from a front axle.
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I know its not yota but if you want front and rear stear get a dana 44 from early 80 wagoneer and mid 70 wagoneer and you have two offset axles for the suzuki transfercase. This is what i plan to do someday when i have time and cash.
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i was also considering doing rear steer in my zuk using yotas... i'm thinkin rotating the 3rd and cap will be easiest..
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just use knuckle axles and ditch the yota rear idea, too much work.
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I was curious too.
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axles with 'c on them for a balljoint or kingpin
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ok... thats why i want to use a yoda front.. they have that + the rest of the parts... and i have 3 of them..
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ok... thats why i want to use a yoda front.. they have that + the rest of the parts... and i have 3 of them..
X2, I'm looking at using what I have and besides that I'd just like to see how well a rear steer yota will hold up
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why dont you just take some dana 44 "c"s and weld them onto a toy rear axle Ive seen the 44 c's on a toy front what would stop it on the rear ??
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I don't know personaly, but everyone says a hopped up 44 is weaker than a hopped up yota. So that is why,and also once again, I have most of the yota stuff and just want to build a rear steer yota...
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anyways... i was thinking of using an elec. hydro. pump off of a boat or small ditchwitch.. i have an magnetic switch i could use to tell me when it is centered and use a valve body off of a tractor.. when my ankle heals up and i'm able to get back out there i will see what i can round up..
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Bill (Hidious4x4) has done Sammy rear steers and uses a electric ram rear and full hydro front. 33's with Spidertrax and TT axles.
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I was going to get another PSC ram to match the one I have up front and run it from the pump I have now. But with my trailer getting stolen and X-mas closing in I might have to wait untill next winter...
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Cash for clunkers brought in some newer landcruisers believe it or not so the front aren't as impossible to find.
Bang for buck I would run a custom housing there less work in the end and more abilility to hold up. Ruff Stuff is a good source to look into right now.
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