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SSLT1Kid
02-19-2006, 04:45 AM
i noticed that there is already a 4 link thread going, but i dont want to steel rock rats thread. i have a 1992 Sidekick 4 door and i am planning on swapping in toyota axels front and back. i know most of you guys are Sammi guys (i was one myeslf until mine was stollen), but i am guessing that the fundamentals are the same. i am wanting to go with a triangullated 4 link set up using TJ olm man emu 2" lift springs (i already have them) should i mount the springs inboard or outbourd of the frame, and why? also i noticed you guys talking about the size of the hiem joints that you guys are running. how are they measured? by the size of the bearing inside? any other tips or pointers would be very much appreciated.

thanks,

Shawn

germ
02-20-2006, 12:40 AM
I would prolly mount them outboard so you could adjust your height.

redzook
02-20-2006, 04:20 AM
outboard for stability

wont have as much flex but flex is overrated:mrgreen:

rockrat
02-20-2006, 09:40 AM
I am currently linking my sammy and the best source of information I have found so far is from peterson's 4wheel& off road web site they have a site with a good article wich explains how to set up for anti-squat, axis roll. there is quite a bit of work using graph paper drawings and some math involved. but don't be discouraged, I'm really bad at math and I am not an engineer. and I am moving along fairly well. I would also recomend reading everything you can get your hands on about suspension geometry and materials and when in doubt call spidertrax. (I don't work for them) these guys build and compete all the time, I have called them once in a while and they were verry helpfull. as far as should you mount your links in side or outside, read the article before you decide cause this could affect alot of stuff.

mahana79
02-20-2006, 10:20 AM
the best source of information I have found so far is from peterson's 4wheel& off road web site they have a site with a good article wich explains how to set up for anti-squat, axis roll.


got a link???? yes im being lazy bigok bigok

DesertZuki
02-20-2006, 01:09 PM
got a link????
x2

All I found was general info:
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techarticles/suspension/131_0505_coil/index.html

Itsmejoe231
02-20-2006, 06:00 PM
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techarticles/suspension/131_0307_link/

good article, Print it and read it several time.

DesertZuki
02-20-2006, 08:07 PM
...Print it and read it several time.
Printed and reading... Thanks!

Itsmejoe231
02-20-2006, 09:10 PM
Printed and reading... Thanks!

I gotcha!!! :mrgreen: Simon didnt say :mrgreen: :funny:

Itsmejoe231
02-20-2006, 09:52 PM
Here is probably one of the best write ups I have ever read and the good part is that it is a fellow zuker and the write up is on a Sami with toy axles.

AZrockcrawler's 4 link rear (http://http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/2003/4-034link/4-034link.html)

holeshot
02-20-2006, 11:09 PM
should i mount the springs inboard or outbourd of the frame, and why? also i noticed you guys talking about the size of the hiem joints that you guys are running. how are they measured? by the size of the bearing inside?

I would mount the coils outboard of the frame or the most I would go inboard would be directly under the frame. The futher outboard you mount the coils the more stable the rig will be. inboarded coils will cause huge body roll.

This is a good deal for heim joints. I would use the 3/4x5/8 heims.
http://www.sn-fab.com/retail.html#heims