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germ
01-12-2006, 04:36 PM
I want to do something with my susp. I just bought a 84 front and 86 rear out of a yota for $150. I would like to do coils in the rear and yj up front for now. I was looking at rro rear coil kit or could i save money by doing it my self. I was going to get the tt front yj kit and if I did that would the tt yj kit work with the yota axles???? Lets hear what ya'll would do!

Itsmejoe231
01-12-2006, 06:09 PM
First make sure they are geared alike. $$ vs your time and skills. That is what you have to consider. Personally, I like building stuff myself just so I can say "I built it". Eventhough I have never built a coil kit for the sami I think I can do enough research to come up with something right or wrong. As far as the price, you can do a comparision and when you make a bill of material add about 20% for the unknown.

Yes the TT YJ kit will work on the toys.

DesertZuki
01-12-2006, 10:53 PM
...Eventhough I have never built a coil kit for the sami I think I can do enough research to come up with something right or wrong...
In the event you find yourself doing this research and you find something definitive regarding relative length of the arms and where to mount the arms in relation to the axles, I'd be very interested. I've found some good write-ups, but nothing that has given me the confidence to build a 3 or 4-link without serious apprehension regarding the geometry of the arms.

I've seen some very freaky-looking rigs that really don't do that well. People in the "know" told me that they were built wrong (bad geometry).

Itsmejoe231
01-12-2006, 10:56 PM
In the event you find yourself doing this research and you find something definitive regarding relative length of the arms and where to mount the arms in relation to the axles, I'd be very interested. I've found some good write-ups, but nothing that has given me the confidence to build a 3 or 4-link without serious apprehension regarding the geometry of the arms.

I've seen some very freaky-looking rigs that really don't do that well. People in the "know" told me that they were built wrong (bad geometry).

I will and I agree with you on geometry. There is a fine art to a 3-4 link and I will find it one day.

germ
01-13-2006, 02:43 AM
My cuz know all about that stuff he can draw it up on his computer and make it work. I think he has auto cad I don't remember. I know I can do the link setup I have all the tools to do it with. I guess I will just have to save up and buy the stuff to do it. Do many people run the yj's up front and coils in the rear. I would do coils up front one day maybe but would like to wait.

holeshot
01-13-2006, 08:31 AM
I would not waist your time with the YJs up front if your just going to switch to coils down the road, just go coils right off the bat. No need to do the work twice.
I bought my coils from RRO and built everything esle myself. The front is my own design and the rear is close to want RRO sells. heres a few pictures for you.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/ironcrow/000_0039.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/ironcrow/000_0038.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/ironcrow/000_0048.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/ironcrow/000_0047.jpg

holeshot
01-13-2006, 08:33 AM
A few more pictures.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/ironcrow/000_0044.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/ironcrow/000_0017.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/ironcrow/000_0019.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/ironcrow/000_0040.jpg

holeshot
01-13-2006, 08:34 AM
Last one




http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/ironcrow/000_0021.jpg

Go right to the coils both axles and dont look back.

germ
01-13-2006, 02:15 PM
Thanks for the pics holeshot. How long are you links??? How much did you pay for the coils????

holeshot
01-15-2006, 01:33 AM
Thanks for the pics holeshot. How long are you links??? How much did you pay for the coils????

My front links are 40'' long,and the rears are 32'' long. The coils cost $59 each, two years ago. might be more now.

purevil71
01-17-2006, 11:40 AM
Sean DiVinny had some coils for a pretty decent price. Look him up at aftermarket4x4 and tell him what your after.

Ruttdigger
01-17-2006, 12:03 PM
air shocks are about the same price as doing coilovers. Might want to check into those too.

germ
01-17-2006, 02:59 PM
How much more work is in doing the air shocks than coils. I think I will stick with coil springs. They are a little cheaper.

LWB Samurai Joe
01-17-2006, 11:26 PM
I agree with coil shot. A friend and I (mostly him) did a four link rear and three link front using Ford Ranger coils, in two days. I went with the Ford coils because I'm running a diesel engine and my entire rig is heavier.

Ill try and get some clear pics of the suspension.

Tom
http://www.fototime.com/{18A4D338-1710-40A7-B008-7EC9C757EBC5}/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/{48468874-8CD5-4C1B-9E70-65817233C7D7}/picture.JPG

LWB Samurai Joe
01-17-2006, 11:37 PM
If you decide to go coil overs here is my last samurai in progress. As you can see the work required to complete the rear end was ENORMOUS!

Tom

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http://www.fototime.com/{FDDB5060-4FE7-4228-A65D-773F833CA9DA}/picture.JPG
http://www.fototime.com/{237019F7-9518-4355-9B80-57F049904946}/picture.JPG
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TX_ZUKI
01-17-2006, 11:40 PM
How much more work is in doing the air shocks than coils. I think I will stick with coil springs. They are a little cheaper. Coil springs are cheaper then air shocks. TJ springs work good also.

germ
01-18-2006, 02:40 AM
I guess I'm going to go with coil springs. I don't know what type yet. I'm going to start saving my money so I can get all the parts. I will have a shop in a month or so. Now all I need is a parts list to do something like what holeshot done with his.

NitroMax
02-04-2006, 01:23 PM
If you decide to go coil overs here is my last samurai in progress. As you can see the work required to complete the rear end was ENORMOUS!

Tom

http://www.fototime.com/{FDDB5060-4FE7-4228-A65D-773F833CA9DA}/picture.JPG

Wow Tom, that looks great !! I was talking to the guys at Suzi's Place and one of their customers wants to go for coils over as well, got me thinking too ;)

What's the bar going over the rear axle in the pic above ? Can't seem to find it in the other pics?

So when I'm ready to do this conversion all I have to do is mail you to ask the measurements of the front and rear links ? :mrgreen:

What's the brand of the shocks ? They're pretty cool !

Is a coilover conversion "streetable" ? I just did a search on another board and read it would not be the right choice ?