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ack
03-26-2006, 07:39 PM
Recently, I came across an article at one of the big Zuk sites that described how to build a set of "rock sliders" for a Samurai.

The main ingredient was a 12 foot length of 3/8" thick 4"x4" angle steel.

Anyone recall where this article is???

Zee
03-26-2006, 10:05 PM
Ack,try here.
Z
http://www.off-road.com/suzuki/tech/rocker.htm

ack
03-27-2006, 05:32 AM
Thanks!

It's linked in the FAQ.

I hope the price of 12' of angle steel ain't up to Space Shuttle toilet seats yet...

shorty
03-27-2006, 05:50 AM
I am sure it has passed the price of NASA approved screw drivers.

Eddy
03-28-2006, 05:10 AM
I would be searching further if you want Rock Sliders dude!
IMHO that design offers little more protection than an extra thick coat of paint.
In the event that the full weight of the vehicle came down on those "sliders", they would be pushed firmly up into the panels and may cause as much damage, or more, than unprotected panels would recieve.

DesertZuki
03-28-2006, 10:47 AM
I would be searching further if you want Rock Sliders dude!
IMHO that design offers little more protection than an extra thick coat of paint.
In the event that the full weight of the vehicle came down on those "sliders", they would be pushed firmly up into the panels and may cause as much damage, or more, than unprotected panels would recieve.
Unless you have personal experience here, I have to disagree. I still have the dumb nerf bars that were on the rig when I bought it. They are mounted with a few inches of clearance below the body. I've landed on the passenger one multiple times, hard enough to break the fasteners, dent the tubing, break the brackets and slam the tube into the body several times. The last time I fixed it, I just welded the brackets so that the tube was against the body.

Anyway, all the damage this has done to the body is little more than flatten the pinch seam -- and that's just where the ends of the tubes contact the body! With that flat steel mounted against the body and spreading the impact out along the length of steel I can't imagine the kind of damage you're talking about.

Billjohn
03-28-2006, 01:44 PM
Most folks don't abuse their rigs like I do on the rocks, so the design would help them 'keep the wear marks to a minimum'. But if you want to drop your body down onto a ledge/rock/log over and over - most sliders will not keep the body from getting damage. I run 1/4" wall steel tube welded to 1/4" wall angle for sliders and they have nothing more than scratches...
http://www.billjohn.com/armor/images/skid2.jpg
{picture of the skids right after installation}

But the force of whacking them on the rocks has crushed both sides of the body 'up' a bit. I will take some pix when I get home, but when the doors shut, you can see where the body dives 'in' instead of staying flush with the doors...

Bottom line...
Unless you have integrated the tubes into the cage/frame*, it is only a matter of time (based on level of abuse).

*I don't mean just welding some bracketsto the frame either...

Billjohn
03-28-2006, 07:37 PM
Here is a shot from under the wheelwell...

http://www.zukikrawlers.com/albums/Trail-Rig/crunched.jpg

And from outside...
http://www.zukikrawlers.com/albums/Trail-Rig/crunched2.jpg

DesertZuki
03-28-2006, 11:53 PM
...when the doors shut, you can see where the body dives 'in' instead of staying flush with the doors...
Uh...

Disregard everything I just said then...

(I guess I need to spend more time on the rocks...)

zero
03-29-2006, 12:12 AM
(I guess I need to spend more time on the rocks...)

#1 reason I like easier trails. :dance:

DesertZuki
03-29-2006, 09:57 AM
Really, it's probably not more time on the rocks I need... It's more time keeping my mouth shut unless I really know what I'm talking about.

Course, then I'd have pretty much nothing to say...