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88islandzuki
03-19-2006, 01:23 AM
any one ever used a lockrite locker by power traxx.
do you recomend one and how hard are they to install.

or should i just get my diffs welded

holeshot
03-19-2006, 01:44 AM
I used a lock right in both my zuki axles. Broke one in the front once, I do think it broke because of a brokin birfield. Moved the rear locker to the front and welded the rear, After welding the rear, I started braking rear axle shafts.
I would say No to welding. It puts to much stress on an already small axle shaft.
Friend of mine also broke the pins in his front. His was also after braking a birfield. neather one of us as broke a Lockrite in the rear axle.
I think a Lockrite is ok up to about a 33'' tire.
I swapped in Toyota axles and put in a lockrite up front, and it is not working so good now. Its been in for almost two years and running 36'' tires. I'm going to switch to a Detroit locker.
If your running smaller tires I think a Lockrite would be fine. I wouldnt weld the diff.

88islandzuki
03-19-2006, 02:13 AM
thanks, where did you buy them, and how much were they?
are they east to install?
ive been watchin some on e bay for 200$

muskyslayr
03-19-2006, 05:36 AM
Rocky Road has 'em. They have kind of a bad rep, but I've never had any trouble with them. But they did tell me my lockers were going to be three weeks out and three days later they showed up in the mail. :mrgreen:

http://www.rocky-road.com/zuklock.html

I bought them for the front and rear. Don't have it put in the front yet but I really like the one in the rear. (keep it shut Sally) I heard a bunch of horror stories about lockers before I put mine in. You know, handling issues, noise, etc. I haven't noticed any ill effects on the road. Once in a while I'll get a clunk, but not nearly as bad as I was expecting.

Sally
03-19-2006, 10:00 AM
No opinion on the lockrite, I run a Detroit.
I would highly recommend not welding the diffs. For the time, effort, energy and possibly cost envolved with welding them correctly you could buy a locker. If it's a trail rig, start with the spool in the rear and go from there. It will help a bunch. When you do end up locking the front , I give you one wheeling trip before you want power steering. Arm strong steering with lockers will give you some sore arms in the morning. Also look for used ones. People sell them when the switch to yota axles or air lockers to help offset the cost.

holeshot
03-19-2006, 10:27 AM
The last one I bought was from here.

http://www.roadlessgear.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=LR100&Category_Code=DD&Store_Code=RGL

There real easy to install. You really need to have a dail inducator to do the job correctly. Need to measure backlash on the ring gear before tearing down, then set backlash back to same reading when finished.
Keep everything clean, locktite all your bolts on reassembly, and dont remove the pinion nut.

DesertZuki
03-19-2006, 11:17 AM
The last one I bought was from here.

http://www.roadlessgear.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=LR100&Category_Code=DD&Store_Code=RGL

There real easy to install. You really need to have a dail inducator to do the job correctly. Need to measure backlash on the ring gear before tearing down, then set backlash back to same reading when finished.
Keep everything clean, locktite all your bolts on reassembly, and dont remove the pinion nut.
x2 on everything said here.

Roadless is an outstanding vendor.

I got a dial indicator with base at Harbor Freight for less than $20. But I've put together three by just returning everthing to the exact position it was before the tear down and then tested the backlash and it was right on.

I had few and minor streetability problems with the lockright until I swapped in the 16v. Then it would engage and disengage in the most unlikely of places. It became so annoying I put a spool in the rear.

Still have the lockright in the front and my kid's rig is set up the same way. It works well (we're both running 31s).

There are cons to the spool too, but have you considered a spool (for the rear)?

88islandzuki
03-19-2006, 03:09 PM
spool?

Sally
03-19-2006, 03:58 PM
spool?
A spool is going to turn both shafts the same no matter what. Basically the same as welding the rearend. I would prefer to have a spool for the rocks and trails but a locker for the streets. Running a spool on the road will put a lot of stress on all of the axle components as well as wear the tires a whole bunch faster.

bigflex
03-19-2006, 05:03 PM
id go with a spool in the rear but a lock rite in the front. you can get the spool from dunk. heres the link for themhttp://www.dunksperformance.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=DPOS&Product_Code=YPMINSSSAM-26&Category_Code=Suk-Drive

heres a link to the lock rite i got mine from roadless gear http://www.roadlessgear.com/page/RGL/PROD/D/LR100

i have had good luck with both of these companys. hope this helps.bigok

purevil71
03-19-2006, 09:28 PM
Lock-rite in the front, welded rear if it were me! I ran my sami axles like that for over 5 years with no problems. I will say that welded fronts are VERY hard to turn! Not that a locker is easy, but it's better than a welded front.
As a matter of fact, I'm running welded diffs in my toy axles (F&R), BUT, I'm doing P/S as well. (I might switch over to a detroit in the front later on though, haven't decided yet).


But I ain't skeered.......lol :mrgreen:

snakeman
03-20-2006, 12:06 AM
I took my lockrite out of the front because it wasn't working correctly. Pass front tire would only engage when I didn't want it to (turning), and not when I needed it to. Just driving on flat ground, it would pop and bang real loud. I bought the vehicle with it in, so I can't say as to how it was set up.

I just said to hell with it and bought an ARB. Life is much better (albeit poorer) now!

After taking the Lockrite apart, the pass side side gears were wore pretty rounded.

I have the TT Mini Spool in the rear(Sidekick Hybrid), and running 33" Geolander MT's it sucks around town. Hops and bucks around corners. I'll be going ARB there too when I can afford it. Off road though I like it. Very predictable.

Jeff

Vagabond
03-20-2006, 12:37 AM
Welded difs promote premature tire wear.

Rocky Road Outfitters has the best price for new Lock-Right lockers. $172 + about $12 shipping
http://www.rocky-road.com/zuklock.html

skyhiranger
03-20-2006, 01:02 AM
$175.50 with free shipping.

http://www.central4wd.com/inventorydetail.aspx?page=id%7C13021;folder%7C5521

88islandzuki
03-20-2006, 01:33 AM
thanks, i like the price of the spool ,but the tire wear somewhat worries me .

DesertZuki
03-20-2006, 11:55 AM
...Rocky Road Outfitters has the best price for new Lock-Right lockers. $172 + about $12 shipping
http://www.rocky-road.com/zuklock.html
Chances are Figmo at Roadless Gear (http://www.roadlessgear.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Store_Code=rgl) will meet this price or at least come close enough to make it worth ordering from him. With Figmo, you don't have to worry about your order getting screwed up and you won't find yourself wondering if it will even make it to your door. He's done this for me a couple of times. Now I'm sold enough on his customer service I don't normally haggle with him trying to save a few dollars. Good customer service like that has value.

And you will wear tires quicker with the spool. It will be noticeable. I don't put as many miles on as some guys do, but how many sets of tires have you worn out on a Zuk before they started to dry rot?

purevil71
03-20-2006, 12:25 PM
Welded difs promote premature tire wear.

I had the same set of swampers for 4 years and they looked almost as good the day I sold them as when I got them. Other than some sheet metal scars and rock rash of course. (Guy I sold them to is still using them).

On a big fat pig like a full sized rig (or even my FJ40), I could see where this might be a problem, or if your running a soft tire. But sami's are pretty light weight, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. Plus, I'll take a little tire wear over off road preformance any day!

But again....thats just me. Someone that actually drives there's everyday might have a different set of priorties than I do. Mine is 90% off road and usually only gets driven on road going to one of the local trails, or on the weekends if it's nice and the wife and I wanna go for a country drive.
So, I'll stick with my welded diffs..........lol

Vagabond
03-20-2006, 02:42 PM
Someone that actually drives there's everyday might have a different set of priorties than I doYea, you have to use them to wear them out.

purevil71
03-20-2006, 03:00 PM
Yea, you have to use them to wear them out.

:funny:

88islandzuki
03-20-2006, 07:53 PM
we'll thanks everyone , i think i,m going to go spool in back lockright up front. i drive it to work n back other than that its off road ,and works not too far away.