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simplesam
03-15-2006, 11:22 AM
As I read through all these post (and I do read every single one...I'm a post junkie) it occurs to me that we have all done the trial and error thing example; I personally started with a shackle lift, that made my zuke all but undriveable, it threw the caster off so bad it wouldn't track a straight line at all and if the wind blew I found myself changing lanes without choice.

I am sure those that have done tons of mods have had similar mistakes that they could share with others.

I will add another example; Body lifts, no one ever told me the steering shaft might not reach or the shifter might have trouble hitting the body when done.

ama_zuki
03-15-2006, 11:30 AM
hmm for me it would be the damn add-a-leafs on all four corners while it was stock. OH and that mirror mod where you drill holes in your windshield frame and put in selftapping screws... long story short my mirror fell off going down the interstate

Sally
03-15-2006, 11:56 AM
1 Drive a Heep offroad

2 Run a windshield fold down kit in the down position with out a roll cage.

3. Drink and Drive

DesertZuki
03-15-2006, 01:26 PM
When ordering parts, chose your vendor carefully. If you don't, you may find it... uh... challenging -- in ordering, shipping, parts, instructions, design, support after the sale and in parts fitting.

Of course if you're already reading this board, you already know more than I did when I made my mistake.

Billjohn
03-15-2006, 02:40 PM
Thinking that because you did such a great job on your first welding project, that your welds will be just as strong on the steering components you are making...

Bottom line - If you really don't know much about heat treating, tensil strength or the loss of such strength when welding... DON'T WELD CRITICAL COMPONENTS YOURSELF - TAKE THEM TO AN EXPERT!

(long story, expensive lesson...)

xanthias
03-15-2006, 05:26 PM
(didn't personally do this, but--)

1. Booger weld lower shock mounts on a piece of flat iron to the bottom of the factory perches. This makes a wonderful fulcrum to pry the perches off the axle tube.

2. Try to "beef" the factory spring mount in the rear by snot-welding in some 2x2 and deciding that is now sufficient to use as a link attachment point.

3. Practice the 'fold and tape' method of wire harness splicing.

:rolleyes:

88islandzuki
03-16-2006, 12:21 AM
any more what not to do's cuz i,m about start with my stock 88 samurai . i,m gonna start with a spoa, does any one know how much lift you get with say a 2" block (makin my own)

bigflex
03-16-2006, 12:51 AM
blocks are a perfect example of what not to do they will = to extreme axle wrap and snapping of leafs in short dont do it just the spoa and some 2" shackles and you should be ok

DesertZuki
03-16-2006, 09:54 AM
...i,m gonna start with a spoa...
I agree with the blocks. Looks good on "Mall Rated" vehicles, but if you really use the rig, it can cause some problems. Also, just a spring-over will probably give you plenty of lift you want or need. With just a spring-over, I have had very few issues with clearance.

This is probably the best tech thread on the web about a spring-over:
http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=174

TX_ZUKI
03-16-2006, 10:00 AM
My regret that I sold my 1st Samurai :(

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/50613/fullsize/lift1.JPG

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/50614/fullsize/lift2.JPG

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/50606/fullsize/MVC-316F.JPG

Toyota axles, 6.5to1 Tcase gears-36" TSL's-1.6 16V Tracker motor.

Itsmejoe231
03-16-2006, 07:01 PM
Dang Benji, That is a BIG regret there. Just Think you could have it on your chebby axles and such. [rubbing in] :mrgreen:

TX_ZUKI
03-16-2006, 07:14 PM
Dang Benji, That is a BIG regret there. Just Think you could have it on your chebby axles and such. [rubbing in] :mrgreen:2finger

It was my first, never even wheeled it once :( I sold it to start my own business.

Itsmejoe231
03-16-2006, 07:16 PM
Well, I hope you prospered well from it:mrgreen:

DesertZuki
03-16-2006, 09:19 PM
Advice: Tires are a big purchase if you're buying new. Buy the right tire for the right terrain and, because the Zuk is so light, avoid hard compound tires unless you're putting A LOT of road miles on the zuk (like maybe flat-towing or long daily commutes).

My stupid mistake: I bought Bridgestone MT's. After three years on the Zuk, they were barely worn. I then swapped them to the XJ which saw maybe 300 miles a week for over a year. They're still have more than half tread. This sounds good wear-wise, but because they're so hard, I'd slide off of rocks where other guys didn't have a problem sticking. (BFG AT's are really hard too.) And I selected a mud tire when I rarely see mud (southwest = desert). So I'd have problems in the sand. I had big problems with these tires in the sand.

muskyslayr
03-19-2006, 07:19 AM
Don't think because the stock spring pads are made out of lightweight stuff you can make your springover perches out of the same size stuff...:mrgreen:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/muskyslayr/ZukiRe-build004.jpg

Hardline
03-19-2006, 02:05 PM
Well, I hope you prospered well from it:mrgreen:
Oh YEA Benji has lots of money!:shocked!: 2finger bigok :funny: :funny: popcornn

Sally
03-19-2006, 02:21 PM
Don't ever think you can hold the weight of a vehicle when uprighting it.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=194965860237947819&q=suzuki
Same goes the other way too
your arm or leg will not stop the truck from going over.

alilrusty
03-19-2006, 02:40 PM
Don't ever think you can hold the weight of a vehicle when uprighting it.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=194965860237947819&q=suzuki
Same goes the other way too
your arm or leg will not stop the truck from going over.
didn't plan on ever trying that but its still good advice to know

zuknstien
03-19-2006, 02:45 PM
don't think the philips screws are going to come out with a screw driver.

TRASHCAN
03-25-2006, 10:07 PM
NEVER milk a cow with only one long utter!!

Mike

Itsmejoe231
03-25-2006, 11:54 PM
NEVER milk a cow with only one long utter!!

Mike

Dont play leap frog with a unicorn. http://www.justblowme.com/images/smilies/bigjump.gif

simplesam
03-26-2006, 04:14 PM
Never forget to back-up the BB more than 2 days, or all the members will scream when all their post dissappear bigok

Sally
03-26-2006, 05:03 PM
Never forget to back-up the BB more than 2 days, or all the members will scream when all their post dissappear bigok

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/D2theJ/smileys/5_5_1361.gif

more the pm's dissapearing:mrgreen:

Roach2004
03-26-2006, 05:45 PM
Dont back into a tree going really fast!

corrupt
03-27-2006, 04:36 AM
Dont try and run 39s toy diffs and 16" air shocks. The diffs are to narrow causing u to mount the tops of the shocks so close together (so the tyres dont contact them) that the raditor no longer fits. Then u have to buy a electric water pump and controller $$$$, and try and run the cooling lines under the zuk somewhere :mad:. The whole job would of been alot cheaper, quicker and eaiser if that dam radiator was still in the front.

snakeman
03-31-2006, 05:07 PM
Don't think that you have to buy the top of the line, brand name stuff and have all the "goodies" to make your vehicle capable.

A buddy is building a zuk to "drive to work and light wheel". This guy does not drive near or beyond 50mph.....EVER! I drove through a ditch, and up an embankment (2wd) and he freaked! So he's taking his zuk to TT for a 6.5 tcase, 5:13's, yj's, p/s, cage, ARB's, power tank, + much more ($10k built bill). All to "wheel maybe 10% of the time" and his wheeling is stuff I do in 2wd! And I'm not that "hard" of a wheeler!

zukking01
04-01-2006, 12:04 PM
Don't think that you have to buy the top of the line, brand name stuff and have all the "goodies" to make your vehicle capable.

A buddy is building a zuk to "drive to work and light wheel". This guy does not drive near or beyond 50mph.....EVER! I drove through a ditch, and up an embankment (2wd) and he freaked! So he's taking his zuk to TT for a 6.5 tcase, 5:13's, yj's, p/s, cage, ARB's, power tank, + much more ($10k built bill). All to "wheel maybe 10% of the time" and his wheeling is stuff I do in 2wd! And I'm not that "hard" of a wheeler!


As sad as that is thats how my rig started and then I realized what I wanted to do with all the money I was spendin. :bling: :bling: :bling: